#1 By: Anthony, September 10th, 2018 14:54
i was one of the poor saps that drafted Delanie Walker, hoping for a set-it-and-forget-it situation. any advice on where to go for waivers this week for a .5PPR league? most of the guys roster two TEs so things are pretty bleak outside of Eric Ebron.
#2 By: Matt, September 10th, 2018 15:00
From everything I've read Jonnu Smith may be a good pickup. Mariota targets his tight ends a lot, Smith has a good prospect profile, and he has no competition at TE now that Walker is out. You shouldn't expect the same production obviously, but people have been saying he could be a low end TE1.
#3 By: Ginoooooobliii, September 10th, 2018 18:46
I am worried about Rishard Matthews taking some of those targets as well. If you can get Kittle, I would prefer him over Jonnu Smith.
#4 By: Mychal, September 11th, 2018 05:33
I was looking to get Jonnu as well, but Jared Cook's big day today gives me pause.
Who do you think would be the better pickup?
#5 By: William Russell, September 11th, 2018 10:35
@mychal Jonnu seems the best option for me. I also have Njoku & lots of other randoms like Cook are already rostered.
The other consideration for me was Gesicki. Though @ndutton @ndutton13 may be able to tell me if picking him up is bit premature given his usage so far...
#6 By: How, September 11th, 2018 10:49
Whom would you rather have: Jonnu Smith or OJ Howard? I know, they're both scintillating! I think Smith has a clearer path to targets (coupled with solid athleticism and a solid prospect profile).
Should I try for Njoku instead?
I have Gesicki in a league, but I strongly doubt he'll do anything in his rookie season.
#7 By: William Russell, September 11th, 2018 13:19
@howfantasy true neither are terribly exciting! Nor Gesicki who is also still available.
Thinking of trading with the Gronk owner who also has Ertz & Burton. He is keen on a WR & or RB. Should I offer Cooper straight up? Or a combo of Burkhead & Marvin Jones/Funchess/Keelan Cole. Or, should I bide my time, try to snag Jonnu Smith off waivers and go back for Gronk down the line?
#8 By: How, September 11th, 2018 14:24
I'd offer Cooper straight up. Gronk is a clear upgrade over him, especially after watching the Raiders offense look highly suspect last night (I realize that could end up being a wacky game).
#9 By: William Russell, September 11th, 2018 15:09
@howfantasy True, but that was wk 1 and I'm loath to give up on him so early. My alternate thought is to stockpile rookie RBs (I have Sony, Kerryon, Chubb and possibly RoJo) & package the first to breakout along with Jones or Funchess in a few wks time. WDYT?
#10 By: How, September 11th, 2018 15:18
If I owned Gronk, I'd say no to that offer. I'm stockpiling rookie RBs in my leagues (except Penny and RoJo, since I think they'll do nothing for awhile before they sniff at fantasy relevance).
I think getting Gronk for Cooper is hardly giving up on him. It's capitalizing on his theoretical upside. Remember, Amari Cooper hasn't been Gronk's equal in fantasy yet, unless you count Gronk missing games due to injury.
#11 By: William Russell, September 12th, 2018 11:35
@HowFantasy I get what you're saying. I was just reading a really interesting article on the Athletic which had some next gen stats which showed that Cooper (& Jordy) were getting good separation throughout, but Carr just never got them the ball. And surely he will bounce back from yet another disappointing day.
I'm planning to roll with Njoku this wk and hope for the best, then see if I can package a couple of players to get Gronk.
However, I'd be interested to hear what @hrr5010 or @Cort think about the idea of trying to trade Amari for Gronk. The same owner in my league also has Ertz & Burton so he can defo do without one of them!
#12 By: hrr5010, September 12th, 2018 12:11
I'm so mad at Carr. I watched him throw the second pick six, and wow.... the guy looks like he's seeing ghosts. It's not particularly based on any real observation, but this team was kind of outclassed. Although the Rams are a SB contender, so i'm not over reacting and I've learned to leave Cooper in my lineup in the event that he goes off. Absolutely crushed me this week.
I think moving Cooper for Gronk is a great move, and hopefully the other owner accepts. Gronk really is a high value WR, not really a TE. I'm not sure that former lacrosse player Chris Hogan is the true vertical threat people think he is, because the truth is... that vertical threat is Gronk.
Also - the title of this post makes me sad. I have near 100% ownership of Delanie in dynasty and a significant amount of best ball leagues. Help.
#13 By: William Russell, September 12th, 2018 12:20
@hrr5010 his (unsurprising) response is below.
'Based on week 1 production and opportunity,,, would have to say no to that...if he bounces back week 2 , we could talk'
I'm happy to hold on in the hope of a Cooper breakout/rebound but am bit worried at only having Njoku to start this wk. Tempted to grab Jonnu Smith if Mariota is passed fit and roll the dice on Sunday.
Or try to get Burton for Marvin Jones, Keelan Cole, Kerryon (or some combo of Chubb or RoJo if they start playing more).
#14 By: How, September 12th, 2018 12:21
Let me be clear: I've been a Cooper lover for years now. I totally believe he's a great talent. I just think Gronk is arguably the greatest TE ever to play the game, he's playing with one of the best QBs ever to play, he has one of the greatest coaches of all time on the sidelines, and there's basically no competition for him to get targets right now. Gronk's only risk is injury.
#15 By: hrr5010, September 12th, 2018 12:25
I agree with @HowFantasy We talk about Ertz and Kelce like they're in the same tier, but the truth is those guys don't perform as reliably as gronk or post the same PPG either. Ask everyone who took Ertz/Kelce this last week how they're feeling this morning.
I would start Njoku over Jonnu, if only because Jonnu's a soph TE facing target competition from: Corey Davis, Rishard, Tajae/Taywan, not to mention Dion Lewis. Njoku's in a similar situation, but has much higher upside IMO. Evan Silva keeps referring to Njoku as a possible Travis Kelce, and if the Browns are playing from behind hopefully Njoku gets more run.
See if you can move Keelan Cole for Burton.
#16 By: How, September 12th, 2018 12:30
Isn't Njoku a soph TE facing target competition from: Landry, Gordon, Duke Johnson, and Callaway/Higgins (and, to a lesser extent, Hyde)? I agree with you, but mostly because I think Njoku might be a better prospect than Smith.
#17 By: hrr5010, September 12th, 2018 12:58
I agree with you that they find themselves in similar situations (both are soph TE's facing target competition) and I agree that Njoku is a better prospect than Smith. However, I doubt that the Titans prioritize Jonnu over Corey Davis, Rishard (who didn't see any targets last week), and others. Plus if their pass blocking is a concern, they'd probably deploy Luke Stocker more and lean on their other WRs.
I still think Njoku sees more targets than Jonnu ROS, and given Njoku's preseason usage, it sure seemed like the coaches want to make him an integral part of their gameplan.
Njoku saw more targets than Duke Johnson vs. the Steelers last week. Also - duke was terrible as a receiver, which is his primary role in this backfield. (1-8-0 on 6 targets? i get the conditions are poor, but these are low aDOT, high percentage throws that should be completions.) Njoku wasn't much better, but wasn't terrible.
Callaway didn't see the field last week, and ran behind Rashard Higgins. Higgins will probably wind up running behind Josh Gordon. Landry is absolutely phenomenal, and probably sees all the targets again.
But if the Saints truly blow out the Browns, the game script probably makes that a win in Gordon's/Njoku's favor since they'll have to abandon the run to throw.
At the end of the day, it's still the TE position, so it's kind of TD dependent. But gimme the guy who's getting targets and seems like an integral part of the game plan, especially if he's on my roster vs. the guy who's not going to see the same volume Delanie saw.
#18 By: William Russell, September 13th, 2018 12:06
@hrr5010 @HowFantasy thanks both for the insights. Gronk owner playing tough, wants Keenan for him (no chance) and Burton for Cole didn't fly. Hoping for an Amari bounceback this wknd or can try someone else for Burton.
Have also thrown out an Amari offer to the Kelce owner. I'm a bit worried it's too high a price, but am using the @JollyG804 theory of making frequent offers to establish myself as a good trader.
#19 By: hrr5010, September 13th, 2018 12:14
It's a good method. I don't hate shopping Amari, but people are definitly abandoning ship. I'd be glad if the Kelce owner accepts. I figured the Burton guy wouldn't go for it, but it's worth trying.
It's a bit frustrating the Gronk owner wants KA. It's a fair trade in a vacuum, but i'd rather roll out the WR over the TE. But that's just me.
#20 By: William Russell, September 13th, 2018 12:28
He's just trying it on because I lost wk1 and he has a strong roster, but with an unnecessary 3 TEs! We can start 2 and he did, but he doesn't need Burton unless bye wks and injuries coincide. Problem is he has Westbrook, hence no interest in Cole.
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