#1 By: Ryan Blakeslee, December 5th, 2018 13:53
@FF_Contrarian it’s been amazing watching Mahomes this season and interesting to see the comps to Rodgers.
This was GBs WR/TE in 2011.
Jordy (ascending to elite)
Jennings (made probowl)
Finley (ascending breakout star)
Looking at the splits with Rodgers past 4 seasons we’ve seen a few major impacts.
A) inability to replace Finley
B) decline of Jordy
C) defensive issues have probably assigned more draft picks to fix the secondary, leaving less allocation to WR/TE.
D) front office striving to maintain a large cap cushion prevented much help via free agency.
E) poor job in terms of roster construction blending the types of WRs. Long and rangy deep ball players are great but they’ve missed what’s worked so well for Brady. Having the Welker/Amendola/Edelman types with great lateral quickness get instant separation on easy throws and keep the chains moving.
McCarthy certainly got old and it was time to go. However GB needs to refortify it’s oline and get Rodgers more weapons. Any over simplication by scapegoating the coach will only mask the need to remedy some of these core issues.
#2 By: Shawn Siegele , December 5th, 2018 19:21
A lot of interesting stuff in there. It's always a tricky question of how much is coaching, how much is QB play, and how much results from supporting personnel.
The Chiefs, Rams, and Saints don't feature the NE-style WRs, which may help their offenses as opposed to hurt them. The limitations of the NE pass-catchers - and the limitations of Brady's arm on anything over 10 yards - have really been exposed this season.
But I do think that's a good point. All of those offenses have developed multiple ways to attack defenses and have a lot of high success rate plays they can fall back on.
The most egregious area for GB might be in utilizing the RBs in the passing game. (Jones has 4+ targets in five straight games, so there was some development there recently.) That's a big weapon for all of those high-powered offenses. (And a big weapon for ascending offenses like CHI.)
One of the biggest differences between GB and the offenses in KC and LAR might be how player-friendly they are. Those teams have incorporated college concepts in a way that really stresses the defense yet minimizes some of the difficulty for the skill position players. That, for me, is the real genius of it.
But adding weapons should help GB as you say. The elite offenses are all doing it in different ways, but they do have multiple means of attack. In fact, they have so much talent that a team like the Rams can lose Kupp, and the Chiefs can lose Watkins and Hunt and keep ticking. They still have an abundance of riches.
I'm optimistic about MVS and St. Brown, but some type of underneath threat - whether it's a TE, an RB, or a possession receiver - would be a big deal for that offense in a chain-moving capacity, exactly as you say.
#3 By: Ryan Blakeslee, December 6th, 2018 00:35
I agree with all of your points, lots of excellent considerations. Also I’m on board with moving on from MM, the Rodgers window is closing and the front office is finally feeling the pressure. The limitations to Cobb/Graham clearly were not part of the offseason plan. These two in theory would own the middle. Probably a great time to buy low on Rodgers, Jones and the rookie WRs.