#1 By: RotoViz, October 10th, 2017 15:16
Originally published at: http://rotoviz.com/2017/10/tuesday-morning-trades-week-6/
Welcome back to Tuesday Morning Trades, a weekly column that will highlight players to target today before their prices change tomorrow. Major injuries to J.J. Watt and Odell Beckham Jr. cast a pall over an otherwise pretty exciting week of football. But it’s a “next man up” league, and fantasy opportunities will be created from…
#2 By: Ginoooooobliii, October 10th, 2017 18:00
Aiken is still available in our league, so that is easy. What would you pay for Sammy? Snead? I was hoping to turn Tyrell W for him but he isn't doing so well himself. Alex Collins + Tyrell is my current offer. Making the same offer for Forte.
#3 By: thickfreakness, October 10th, 2017 19:02
I just swapped Watson and Ellington for Alex Smith and Engram. I am high on Alex Smith. His counting stats are great and he passes the eye test for me. I'm sure he'll regress some, but that offense is great. I also wanted some TE insurance for Kelce and the Giants have to pass to someone, right? I have a fair amount of other passing backs so I'm happy with trading Ellington who was my RB6.
#4 By: Trevor.Moran, October 10th, 2017 21:40
Hey @devinmci I think i might try to get drew brees. the guy has alex smith so hes down to trade. Heres my Team what do you think is a good offer that wont kill my team
Im thinking of a wr maybe because jaron brown is on wavier
only picked up gates because gronk was out last week
#5 By: devinmci, October 10th, 2017 23:16
@turndownforwatt I think I would try to offer a productive bench player that has capped upside for Sammy (or Snead), like a Theo Riddick or Wendell Smallwood. I mean, those guys might not fetch anything at this moment, but that type of player that an opponent could considering starting, whereas they may just be too gunshy to start Sammy, and if they aren't going to start him, might as well move him. Rob Kelley, Latavius (again, he probably won't get it done, but might've a week ago). You could even offer a Thielen or Devante Parker type player if you have the depth, but that's fairly risky . . . good odds they outperform Sammy. Maybe someone like Corey Coleman. (Either Corey has a similar kind of profile, really, but Sammy as a more veteran player is probably more likely to be able to dominate targets if there were to be injuries on his team). Forte I would try to get as cheaply as possible, but losing Collins seems okay if you aren't starting him anyway.
@thickfreakness I really like that deal. Watson and Ellington are both good, but you can't be afraid to lose trades. It's a great move to take advantage of recent performance to move value from more replaceable positions to possibly an irreplaceably valuable TE. We already see what Clay was doing in Buffalo on that depth chart, and NYG are likely going to pass more.
@IITrollface You could send Thielen or Snead for Brees, and even throw in Luck if you wanted to.
#6 By: Trevor.Moran, October 10th, 2017 23:23
who do you like more long term Thielen or snead?
#7 By: kdenigris, October 11th, 2017 10:04
the 0-4 team from last week is now 0-5 so we are officially on our last thread of hope. Had to make a move to theoretically bolster the starting lineup short term & and long term at the expense of depth to start winning now. At the start of yesterday:
QB: Wilson, Rivers (bye week fill in only)
RB: Crowell, Ellington, Ingram, Gio, Smallwood, Gallman
WR: AB, Kelvin, Cooper, Amendola, Fuller
Traded: Cooper, Crowell, Fuller and Bennett for Ajayi, Hurns, and Engram; picked up McKinnon on waivers. I know I'm punting on Cooper early but I think I can slot Ajayi in and improve my starting lineup overall immediately.
So now I'm looking at
RB: Ajayi, Ingram, Ellington, McKinnon, Gio Smallwood, Gallman
WR: AB, Kelvin, Amendola, Hurns
My next move is to package some of the RB depth pieces I've accumulated for an upgrade on KB at my WR2. Wondering who is worthwhile target and what I should give up to get them. Is McKinnon someone to ship out now while his value is sky high despite uncertainty the usage will continue? I will list the receivers I consider "available" in the WR1-2 range based on current standings, roster construction etc. in no particular order:
Larry Fitz, Parker, Manny Sanders, Tyrell Williams, Watkins, Baldwin, Jordy, Crabtree, Sneed, Sheppard, Demaryius, Cooks, Hogan.
#8 By: FrankF, October 11th, 2017 10:31
STD scoring I can get Jordan Howard for McKinnon and Watson. Thoughts? Thanks
#9 By: devinmci, October 11th, 2017 11:19
@IITrollface That's an interesting question. The risk with Thielen is the QB situation, and the overall offense. His targets have been remarkably consistent, and if Diggs struggles with injury again, he could be the legit WR1, so that's real upside. Snead's offense and QB situation is much safer, but his hamstring still bothering him is a red flag, and he may be a ppr-type guy who doesn't really get the targets he needs to have value week-to-week. (That said, Thielen has the same number of TDs as Snead right now). I would lean Thielen, just because we know what his role in the offense is, and Snead is a question mark. It's unclear how many weeks it will take for us to be confident in starting Snead.
#10 By: Jason, October 11th, 2017 11:29
@devinmci I'm trying to trade for Amari but not sure exactly what to offer. Should I give Aaron Jones for him? My other RBs are Tevin, Kamara, Mack, Ivory, Breida and WRs are Diggs, AJG, Marvin Jones, Corey Davis, J Doctson
#11 By: devinmci, October 11th, 2017 11:46
@Gohio I would do that. McKinnon is a dicey start in Standard. Howard is getting touchdowns and that's what you're after. It obviously depends what your QB situation becomes, but moving a QB and a ppr back to get a potentially top TD guy in Howard is a move I like. I think Trubisky showed enough that the offense shouldn't implode or anything.
@FantasyNerd If you can get Amari for Jones, I'd do that in a second. You could throw in Corey Davis too, which is a fairer offer, especially if you need to win games now, record-wise.
@kdenigris If you can get Cooks for like Kelvin or Amendola + Jerick or Ellington, that would be interesting. I don't even mind Cooks/Amendola on the same team, since it's the Patriots. Gotta be careful of the bye weeks though, so take those into consideration. Maybe you can keep targeting guys who already has their bye as the weeks go on.
#12 By: FrankF, October 11th, 2017 13:15
Other QB is Carr which makes me a little hesitant
#13 By: devinmci, October 11th, 2017 14:39
@Gohio That seems okay to me. Oakland's defense hasn't been very effective, so I think Carr should continue to be in good game scripts. I'm predicting that their run/pass splits near the goal line will regress towards the run a bit, but right now they are throwing a ton, so if that continues, it will help keep his TD rate up, which is important since he doesn't run. I guess there's some risk with the injury, but it's not that serious an injury I don't think, and he's expected back this week.
#14 By: kdenigris, October 11th, 2017 15:45
Kelvin + Jerick for Cooks done deal. I feel like I've cashed in depth for to give my starting lineup a higher floor but also a higher ceiling. Turned Crowell, Cooper, Fuller, Bennett, Benjamin, and McKinnon into Ajayi, Cooks and Engram.
New look roster is
QB- Rivers (streamer for this week)
Rus Wilson, Gio, Amendola, Gallman, Forte, Marvin Jones
#15 By: kdenigris, October 11th, 2017 16:31
Would you move Larry + Jerrick or Duke for Kenan Allen in anticipation of the Fitz 2nd half drop off? .5 PPR 2RB, 2WR, 1 Flex 1 TE
RBS: CJA, Jerick, Duke, Breida, Burkhead, Abdullah
WRs: AJG, Evans, Diggs, Fitz, Ja Brown
#16 By: Matt, October 11th, 2017 16:42
0.5 PPR, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 W/R/T: I have a pretty stacked team, 2nd most points, only 3-2 so far. A guy is trying to unload Ty Montgomery and David Johnson and wants Aaron Jones in return. UPDATE: He dropped David Johnson.
Here are my RBs: Kareem Hunt, Aaron Jones, Jerick McKinnon, Bilal Powell, D'Onta Foreman, and Marlon Mack. Breida and DJ are available to be picked up as well.
WRs: Julio, Keenan Allen, Cooper, Garcon, Snead, Jaron Brown
I originally offered to trade him Bilal Powell (he has McGuire) and Jaron Brown, and he countered with Aaron Jones.
Would you recommend:
A) countering with Powell and Brown for Montgomery only (I sent this offer since Yahoo projects it to help him); or
B) offering McKinnon, Brown, and Powell for Montgomery and Baldwin; or
C) offering McKinnon for Baldwin straight up; or
D) standing pat.
#17 By: devinmci, October 11th, 2017 18:09
@kdenigris Not necessarily, because Keenan and Fitz have been so close. But I do prefer Keenan, partly because it's .5 ppr and he is running somewhat deeper routes and is probably better after the catch at this point. DJ is coming back at some point, and Fitz has benefited from injuries to the other receivers who seem healthy now. If there are good waiver pick ups, that really softens the blow of losing Duke/Jerick, so I don't mind it. Neither are as valuable in .5 ppr, and hitting people in the face with AJG, Evans, Keenan will be nice, esp if Diggs is limited for a while.
@mateoloco if he wants Jones, then I'd just give him Jones+Jaron for TyMo. Nobody knows how it's going to play out, but my guess is that Tymo has a safe 50% snaps, and Jones/Williams will share the other snaps. Tymo seems more likely to have an impact in the passing game. But I would read the reports coming out of GB very closely--I don't have any special insight here. If you can get Baldwin for McKinnon, I'd do that in a start 4 WR format.
#18 By: kdenigris, October 11th, 2017 18:23
Slim pickings on waivers (ours don’t run until tonight): Mack, McKissick, Dion Lewis. Still recommend it? If so do you prefer holding on to duke or Jerick?
#19 By: Brandon Hughes, October 11th, 2017 19:27
Green Amari Tyrell Kearse Wallace
Ingram Hyde Howard McKinnon Vereen Henry Foreman
PPR league. Starts 3 WR and 1 FLEX. Have an owner that is extremely high on Ingram and contacted me immediately after the AP news. Offered Ajayi or any WR of my choosing for Ingram. Hopkins Evans Diggs being his top 3 WR. I looked into the Buy Low Machine for weeks 6-16. HOU and TB are in the top with TB looking more favorable at the moment. I like Ingram and am excited about his ROS but I'm not sure if I can pass up Nuk or Evans, Also offered the McCoy owner McKinnon and am waiting to hear back from him and would quickly give him Ingram if that's who he wants. Trade Ingram for McCoy or Ingram for Hopkins, Evans, or possibly Diggs? Or keep him?
Thanks in advance for all advice and help.
#20 By: jesseross99, October 11th, 2017 20:41
If you can flip Ingram into one of Hopkins or Evans, I agree it falls into "have to do it" territory. Diggs scares me with the new groin thing, and McCoy may not be such an upgrade.
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