#1 By: RotoViz, November 14th, 2017 16:55
Originally published at: http://rotoviz.com/2017/11/tuesday-morning-trades-week-11/
Welcome back to Tuesday Trades, a weekly column that will highlight players to target today before their prices change tomorrow. Philip Rivers is in the concussion protocol, and Brett Hundley is dealing with a hamstring injury. If Kellen Clemens and Joe Callahan join the list of 2017 quarterback starters, it will truly be a sign…
#2 By: kdenigris, November 14th, 2017 19:48
Looking to upgrade at RB before the deadline. Had offered my AJG for Theiland & Coleman- and he countered with AJG and Duke for Theiland and Coleman. Still a good deal in .5 PPR, start 2 RB 3 WR? My team is currently:
RB: McKinon, Rex, Duke, Damien Williams, Cohen
WR: Evans, AJG, Keenan, Diggs, Corey Davis
#3 By: devinmci, November 14th, 2017 19:57
@kdenigris Coleman's edge over Duke really evaporates if Freeman only misses a week. I'd be more inclined if one loss were going to keep me out of the playoffs. Maybe you could package a WR + Duke or Williams for Melvin Gordon, who had a terrible game against a tough Jax defense, and had Ekeler vulture two passing TDs. Or maybe you could flip Williams for David Johnson as a lottery ticket, since those RBs are a little redundant.
#5 By: kdenigris, November 14th, 2017 21:23
MelHo owner won’t sell low. Is hyde enough of a pull for diggs or allen?
#6 By: devinmci, November 14th, 2017 22:29
@kdenigris I don't think so, just because I think the usage down the stretch for SF is really unknown.
#7 By: Ulises G Rojas, November 14th, 2017 23:13
I was offered Melvin Gordon for my Michael Thomas.
I currently have Thomas, Evans, Fitzgerald, Dez and Shepard at WR.
RBs are Mixon, McKinnon, Derrick Henry and Rod Smith.
Pull the trigger or no?
#8 By: devinmci, November 15th, 2017 00:30
@mee_moe I want Michael Thomas. Gordon's value is tied to his passing game usage, and that's somewhat unpredictable right now. Ekeler looks good in that role. In standard, it's pretty close. I like Gordon fine as a target if he's selling closer to 2nd round value, because his last game was so awful. Thomas is such a safe player that I'm rarely looking to move him.
Also, Mixon/Jerick looks pretty solid at RB. Maybe if you could get Gordon for Fitz+Mixon I'd do it, but it depends heavily on your record and the starting lineup requirements.
#9 By: William Russell, November 15th, 2017 02:37
@devinmci great piece as ever, required reading even though my trade deadline has now passed. I picked up Coleman in a trade at the deadline, despite being playoff-bound at 8-2, so was interested to see you had him as a sell.
My thoughts were that he was an injury away from a huge workload, while already being an effective back in his own right. My other RBs are Mixon, Murray and Foreman and I only usually start 2 as can start 5 WRs in our league.
Have I made a mistake?
#10 By: kdenigris, November 15th, 2017 08:35
Good point. Does Freeman make for a good target if i can get him at discount for Allen or Diggs?
#11 By: devinmci, November 15th, 2017 15:39
@Will I wrote up T.Coleman as a buy, so I agree with your take on him.
I emphasized him for playoff bubble teams, because he's more valuable to them than to playoff-bound teams. For example, a playoff bubble team might be wise to trade a player like Zach Ertz or Dez Bryant for Coleman. If you're 8-2, you should probably not trade Zach Ertz for Coleman . . . because Coleman is only a borderline starter when Freeman returns.
There's always the chance that Freeman misses more time than expected, and then Coleman could be a league-winning player. So he's a great player to own. But you can leverage his workload right now to get a player that will most likely be more valuable than him in the playoffs.
@kdenigris Yes, the flip side is definitely that Freeman is a guy who will likely sit the next week or two, but could return to solid value by the playoffs. To me it's much riskier though, because we have no idea how soon Freeman will return, or if they'll reduce his workload when he comes back, etc. He's had concussions before and you never know, he could sit for four weeks. Or he could have another one and go on IR. So he's an extremely high risk target right now, that I wouldn't want to give up a top starter for in Allen or Diggs. Especially because it's not even clear that Freeman is superior to those guys. His passing game usage has really hurt his floor, which I think I wrote about last week.
#12 By: thickfreakness, November 15th, 2017 15:57
10 team Half PPR QB/2RB/2WR/TE/Flex
Dez/Demaryius/Cooper/Robby Anderson/Corey Davis/Crowder
Should I consider a Hunt plus filler (Crowder or Martin maybe?) for Melvin Gordon and Diggs trade? I really want another good WR and I trust Diggs, but worried about Gordon. I know the snaps and share are still there, but Ekeler looked decent.
Currently 4-6 and 6th seed (final playoff spot). I'd be trading with the number one overall team with the Diggs/Gordon package. He has gotten there with Elliott/Gordon/Russ.
I've tried for some packages of Mixon/Dez or Demaryius to upgrade my WR, but I've had no bites. No one is high on Mixon (and I'm not either to be honest). Any other trade targets that might be undervalued?
#13 By: devinmci, November 15th, 2017 17:06
@thickfreakness That trade seems pretty unlikely to happen, but yeah, I'd take Gordon and Diggs for Hunt...
Tough to trade when your players have underperformed or gotten unlucky . . . Dez undervalued right now, I think Mixon is too. DT, I really don't know . . . the offense limits him, but nobody is going to pay for back to back TD weeks in blowout games.
Honestly, I think the squad looks good, and I wouldn't be desperate to shake it up. In half ppr you need those TDs from WRs and you at least have guys in position to get them. I want to hoard that RB depth heading into the stretch. Maybe if you can trade DT+Hunt for Brandin Cooks+Lamar Miller or Jordan Howard, that could be nice. I think Cooks is slightly undervalued right now.
#14 By: thickfreakness, November 15th, 2017 18:16
I've actually got him thinking about the Gordon/Diggs trade and I think I'd just need to add one of Lynch/Martin/Crowder/Anderson to make it go through.
#15 By: devinmci, November 15th, 2017 19:05
@thickfreakness I'd happily add any of those guys to make it go through.
#16 By: devinmci, November 16th, 2017 22:47
Week 10 Recap
HUNDLEY - Hundley only put up 14.1 pts, but had another solid game, and basically led the Packers on six scoring drives out of ten (one ruined by another Crosby missed field goal). Many people are writing him off, and I don't know why.
FITZPATRICK - This was a bit of a desperation streamer, but one that could turn into a long term play. Winston was a week or two from returning, but now the coaching staff "thinks" he will return this year.
CAM - Newton was the QB1 this week with 35.7 points. Even with Curtis Samuel and Russell Shepard dropping everything in sight.
FOURNETTE - I said that Fournette's injury and mystery benching might give you a rare opportunity to get a top RB. Fournette did indeed return from injury and had 17 carries and 4 targets, so he looks to be back on track.
FORTE - Hit the brakes on this one when news came out Wednesday that Forte had some knee swelling.
CROWELL - Duke did return from his concussion, but Crow was the RB8 with 90 rushing yards and a TD.
JORDY - Jordy has been extremely cheap, and I have been arguing the Packers aren't dead yet with Hundley. So far though, Davante Adams has been the beneficiary.
MICHAEL THOMAS - Thomas added another 9 catches for his first 100 yard game of the season. He has 5 double digit target games, and has only had fewer than 8 targets once, which was in the Saints blowout of the Lions.
DIGGS - Diggs looked back from his injury, with 78 yards and a TD, and almost a second TD on a 51 yard bomb.
GARRETT CELEK - Celek was the TE4 with 67 yards and a TD.
WENTZ - Philly was on bye, so we'll see how this one pans out.
COREY CLEMENT - Same as above. Although it came out during the week that LeGarrette Blount lobbied the coaches to let Clement go back in on the goal line to get a hat trick because it was his birthday.
MARVIN JONES - Jones crashed back to Earth with one catch for 22 yards, despite Stafford throwing three TDs.
JIMMY GRAHAM - As I said, I'm not at all worried about Graham and he was the TE1 last week. But Seattle has a difficult stretch against TEs, so it's not a bad time to move on from Jimmy if you have multiple starting TEs.